Welcome to the Disability Labs Podcast Network (DLPN) — a collaborative audio hub where educators, therapists, curriculum designers, and purpose-driven creators come together to amplify the voices of students who learn differently.

Founded by Cheri Dotterer, occupational therapist and host of The Writing Glitch, Tier 1 Interventions, and The Purpose-Filled Teacher, LDPN is a one-of-a-kind space uniting podcasts dedicated to the science, stories, and strategies behind learning disabilities like dyslexia, dysgraphia, dyscalculia, ADHD, and more.

Whether you're a parent seeking hope, a teacher searching for effective tools, or a clinician committed to making a difference, LDPN offers expert interviews, hands-on interventions, and personal breakthroughs that go beyond labels. We don’t just talk about learning struggles—we provide real, neuroscience-based solutions that ignite potential and reimagine possibility.

Through our network of independently hosted shows, we foster collaboration, spark innovation, and empower leaders in the field of learning support. LDPN is also home to a new generation of teacherpreneurs and educators called to create impact while staying rooted in purpose.

Want to launch your own podcast within the LDPN family? We're looking for mission-aligned creators to join us. If your podcast explores learning differences and inclusive education, there’s a seat at our table.

Latest Episodes

Stop Teaching Multiplication the Old Way—Try This Strategy

“3 Math Rules That Never Expire” series, Jonily Zupancic unpacks the timeless power of “Multiplication is Rectangle.” Discover how this one concept—taught with visual models, grid paper, and even scissors—transforms understanding from 1st grade to high school algebra. You’ll hear how multiplication connects to skip counting, area, and even factoring binomials like (x+2)(x+3)(x+2)(x+3)(x+2)(x+3). Whether you're teaching 7×8 or 27×18, you'll learn how to make math visual, conceptual, and unforgettable.🎧 Tune in for: • Why expired math rules fail students • How to teach multiplication through arrays and connector boxes • When and how to introduce fractional and algebraic rectangles • A preview of Cycle A in the "Rules That Never Expire" strategyDownload Cycle A here: https://disabilitylabs.com/43857/files/683e3aae9b9a6_1748908718_intro-multiplication-cycles-notes.pdfNOTE: You must log into DisabilityLabs.com to gain access.While you are there, join out 3d community. https://disabilitylabs.com/community/3d-learning-lounge-1***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES00:00 - Introduction to the Series01:30 - Why Some Math Rules Don’t Transfer02:45 - Multiplication is Rectangle: The Timeless Rule04:00 - Using the Dimension Chart for 7×806:00 - Finding the Connector Block (The “Array Number”)08:30 - Scaling to Two-Digit Multiplication (27×18)11:30 - Teaching 8 × ½ Using Grid Paper and Scissors13:30 - Exploring Fractions and Decimals with Rectangles16:00 - Visualizing Algebra: (x+2)(x+3)17:09 - Why Multiplication is Rectangle Never Expires***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:Cheri@cheridotterer.comJonily@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

What If Math and Writing Struggles Are Actually the Same Problem?

What happens when an occupational therapist and a math coach collide? In this segment, Cheri Dotterer introduces her long-time collaborator, Jonily Zupancic, a math coach and former teacher who brings deep insight into why math instruction often misses the mark for students with learning differences. Together, they explore the interconnectedness of reading, writing, and math—and how Tier 1 strategies can realign instruction to support all learners.Listeners will walk away with powerful insight into how educational silos (ELA vs. math) can be bridged using cognitive science, collaborative co-teaching, and practical classroom strategies. If you’ve ever wondered how dysgraphia and dyscalculia really show up in your students—and what to do about it—this segment is your wake-up call.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the complete Quick Dots Purple X training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES00:00 – Recap from Cheri: From dysgraphia to math challenges00:10 – Personal reflection: Realizing the reading-writing disconnect00:35 – The discovery: Even non-readers benefit from writing strategies00:45 – Enter Jonily Zupancic: Math teacher turned coach01:10 – How Cheri and Jonily’s worlds “collided” 4–5 years ago01:30 – The “aha” moment: Linking writing challenges to math performance01:55 – Why standard math teaching strategies fall short02:20 – The power of co-designing interventions across subjects02:45 – Introducing a new way of thinking about math as a language***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:Cheri@cheridotterer.comJonily@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

Why Some Kids Can Read but Still Can’t Write

In this powerful kickoff to the Math DysConnected Week, occupational therapist and learning interventionist Cheri Dotterer shares the deeply personal and professional journey that led her to become a national voice in the world of dysgraphia and math interventions. With over 30 years of experience in both adult rehab and school-based therapy, Cheri reflects on how seemingly disconnected learning challenges like dysgraphia, dyscalculia, and gifted reading profiles intersect in the classroom—and in life. This episode sets the stage for unpacking practical, Tier 1 classroom strategies that bridge cognitive science and math instruction.Listeners will be introduced to the neuroscience of writing challenges, the identity struggles tied to learning disabilities, and the power of exposure-first teaching strategies that support all learners—whether they can read, write, or neither. A must-listen for teachers, OTs, and intervention specialists seeking to understand the “why” behind common classroom struggles.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the complete Quick Dots Purple X training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES00:00 – Meet Cheri Dotterer: 30 years as an OT, from rehab to school-based therapy00:33 – How dysgraphia became her passion through personal reflection01:00 – The mismatch: Kids who can read but can't write01:30 – Realizing she shared the same struggles as her students02:10 – Why kids who can’t read still benefit from writing interventions02:45 – The origin of the question: “Why can’t kids write?”03:30 – The turning point moment in her therapy career04:00 – Connecting reading, writing, and math as brain-based patterns04:45 – Introduction to the concept of “Math DysConnected”05:15 – The importance of pattern recognition and exposure before mastery***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:Cheri@cheridotterer.comJonily@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

It’s NOT a 5x5! Why Grid Paper Trips Kids Up

Is your student really drawing a 5x5 square—or just counting boxes?In this episode of the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop, we take a deep dive into grid paper misconceptions and why so many students—even in middle school—struggle with precision, tracing, and accurate visual-motor control.You’ll learn:Why grid paper is often too abstract too soonHow to scaffold from geoboards to dot paper before expecting grid paper masteryOccupational therapy strategies for tracing, alignment, and ruler useClassroom interventions that work across all grade levelsThe construction paper trick that might blow your mind!Perfect for math teachers, occupational therapists, and interventionists seeking low-cost, high-impact classroom accommodations.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the full Geo Board training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES01:00 – Chunk 4: What grid paper doesn’t teach (and why it matters)02:30 – The 5x5 illusion: Why most students count boxes, not lines05:30 – Precision vs. accuracy: How visual-motor issues affect math06:30 – Why dot paper often works better than grid paper07:30 – OT tip: Use triangular rulers (Alpha Triangles) for better control09:00 – The progression: From geoboards to independence on graph paper12:00 – Why all students—not just those with IEPs—benefit from scaffolding13:00 – Segment wrap-up: Grid paper as the most abstract tool14:00 – Cheri: Rethinking design copying through the OT + math lens15:00 – Why unstructured play with dot paper boosts spatial reasoning16:00 – Natalie’s takeaway: The next big layer is brain science17:00 – Binder tricks: Slant boards and seating supports on a budget19:00 – The construction paper hack: Boosting tactile feedback for writing20:00 – Teacher reactions: Best facilitation yet21:00 – Krista on cross-audience clarity: OT + teacher integration that clicks***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:Cheri@cheridotterer.comJonily@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

Why Straight Lines Aren’t Always Straightforward: S2 E30

What if your students could see math differently—literally?In this powerful chunk of our Tier 1 Interventions Geoboard Workshop, we dive deep into the concept of diagonals—how a simple shift from horizontal and vertical lines to diagonal ones transforms not only math instruction but also students' experiences of precision, measurement, and curiosity.Join Cheri Dotterer, Jonily Zupancic, and guests as they explore:The surprising complexity behind diagonal linesHow diagonals connect to every grade level from K to 8thWhy geoboards and dot paper are essential for understanding slope, decimals, and irrational numbersAnd how a salt lick for horses might be your next best teaching strategy!Perfect for math teachers, occupational therapists, and interventionists who want students to feel the “aha” moments.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the full Geo Board training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES03:00 – Transforming the 10-frame with dot paper05:00 – The power of diagonals: why they matter in grade 4 and beyond09:00 – Prepping for Pythagorean Theorem (without the formula)12:30 – 🎯 Instructional salt licks: How to spark curiosity16:00 – Accuracy vs. Precision: What the math (and writing) reveals18:00 – Diagonals as the hypotenuse: Squaring the diagonal22:00 – Tilted squares and irrational numbers26:00 – How a diagonal can teach decimal multiplication31:00 – Cheri on writing fluency, posture, and diagonal development34:00 – What pencil grip really means—and what it doesn’t37:00 – Practical OT strategies with Geoboards (and latex-free tips!)***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:Cheri@cheridotterer.comJonily@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

Hosts

Cheri Dotterer

Cheri Dotterer

Host of Tier 1 Interventions
Jonily Zupancic

Jonily Zupancic

Host of Tier 1 Interventions